Session Start: Wed Sep 25 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[05:38]<+camerongray> Mulreay: sounds like a software issue on your machine
[05:39]<+camerongray> Mini HDMI is a pain but common on cards with 2 DVI ports due to space limitations, some cards have an adapter in the box
[05:40]<+camerongray> I wonder if there is a way to completely disable the APU graphics in the BIOS as they may be breaking something
[05:54]<PCdoc> lol I helped that guy in the forum, he did not press the thank button :(
[05:55]<PCdoc> Is it good to add the line to the signature" please press the Thank button if my post was helpful" ?
[06:01]<@Mulreay> Just had to go out and get a DVI to HDMI adapter.. trying it now with onboard disabled
[06:08]<+camerongray> Mulreay: Ahh cool
[06:08]<@Mulreay> Attempting to install the drivers now
[06:08]<@Mulreay> Everything failed again
[06:10]<+camerongray> Dah, what error do you get?
[06:11]<@Mulreay> Just 'NVIDIA installer failed' and everything has either 'not installed or failed' next to it
[06:12]<@Mulreay> No drivers will install on this system
[06:14]<@Mulreay> Going to try turning off AV
[06:15]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah, could be AV or something
[06:16]<+camerongray> Just look forward to how good the card will eventually be
[06:16]<+camerongray> It'll just be some stupid Windows error
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[06:17]<+PITB> Failed again http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8171/7lms.png
[06:20]<+camerongray> Hmm, take a look around on your hard drive (Not sure where) and see if there is a log file, that may have more info
[06:25]<@Mulreay> Log doesn't say much
[06:27]<+camerongray> Pastebin if you want
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[06:34]<Immental1200> I love DNS. So much.
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[06:38]<@Mulreay> Try through windows update
[06:38]<@Mulreay> trying*
[06:39]<@Mulreay> Seems odd though that even xbox controller drivers failed to install as well
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[06:40]<@Mulreay> They failed in windows update as well
[06:41]<@Mulreay> May be time for a fresh install of windows
[06:46]<+camerongray> Hmm, does seem a bit busted
[06:47]<@Mulreay> Backing up all my important stuff.. almost started recovery with the only save of my MC fortress about to be wiped.. that would have been the cherry on the cake
[06:47]<+camerongray> If you have enough space you may want to image your drive
[06:48]<+camerongray> Baskup files as normal too but at least if you miss something you can get it from the image
[06:49]<@Mulreay> yeah
[06:50]<@Mulreay> Not too bothered with most stuff as I will just re-download and install
[08:21]<@Mulreay> OK here goes a full re-install
[08:32]<+camerongray> Good luck :P
[08:44]<@Mulreay> I have a feeling I will need it :p
[08:45]<@Mulreay> If this doesn't work though I may be heading over to the pirate bay for a win 7 cracked version
[09:22]<@Mulreay> attempting to install the drivers now
[09:25]<@Mulreay> It worked.. I could cry
[09:36]<@Mulreay> OK now my screen is too big
[09:39]<@Mulreay> fixed
[09:46]<+camerongray> :D
[09:46]<+camerongray> Now get a game going :D
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[09:51]<@Mulreay> heh, lot of reinstalling to go yet :p
[09:53]<+camerongray> lol
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[10:38]<@Mulreay> OK we will have to stop now..
[10:38]<@BC_Programming> lol
[10:38]<@BC_Programming> I figured out why my desktop was acting frustratingly slow, oddest cause
[10:39]<@BC_Programming> it was actually a firefox plugin, Lazarus- it's database was like a GB
[10:39]<@BC_Programming> not sure how it caused every single other application to take like a minute to switch to but when I disabled the addon suddenly everything was snappy
[10:41]<@Mulreay> cool
[10:41]<@Mulreay> I got my GPU working
[10:41]<@BC_Programming> OOOH! AWESOME
[10:41]<@BC_Programming> hows it workin for you :D
[10:41]<@Mulreay> Only took a re-install of win8
[10:42]<@Mulreay> Not sure yet as everything needs re-installing
[10:42]<@Mulreay> But visually looks awesome
[10:42]<@BC_Programming> Aww wish I was here I could have hooked you up with a RTM copy of Windows 8.1 :D
[10:42]<@Mulreay> heh
[10:47]<@Mulreay> Kind of glad this happened actually.. when I installed the GPU I forgot to plug in the fans so overheating would have been a serious issue
[10:47]<@BC_Programming> what happened?
[10:50]<@BC_Programming> that's skype installed :P
[10:52]<@Mulreay> Lol yeah
[10:54]<@Mulreay> My case fans all run off one cable.. so when I unplugged everything to seat the card I unplugged the main fan and the side fan.. I seemed to have forgotten to connect them again
[10:55]<@BC_Programming> yeah but I mean what happened that made you notice
[10:56]<@Mulreay> I had to nudge the card a little as the DVI to HDMI adaptor wasn't sitting right.. so when I opened the case to re-seat the holding screw I noticed
[10:56]<@BC_Programming> ahhh lucky
[10:56]<@Mulreay> indeed
[10:56]<@BC_Programming> hmm I think pat of my problem with Lazarus may be the result of me having literally every single thing I've typed into every forum for since mid-2011 saved in the database...
[10:57]<@Mulreay> wow, that is a lot of text
[10:58]<@BC_Programming> "Firefox 8 release tomorrow" is one of them lol
[10:59]<@Mulreay> lol
[10:59]<@BC_Programming> ah I have the feature to remove saved forms after a set period of time disabled for some reason
[11:00]<@BC_Programming> two weeks should be good
[11:01]<@Mulreay> I can't install steam which given the trouble I had to get the card working is problomatic
[11:02]<@BC_Programming> why can't you install it
[11:02]<@Mulreay> Sorry, I can install but the verification email never shows up until i close steam.. then the codes are pointless
[11:16]<@Mulreay> Got Steam working after turning off guard
[11:16]<@BC_Programming> what's guard
[11:16]<@Mulreay> There stupid email verification
[11:19]<@BC_Programming> yeah guess I'll be using steam again on Oct 1st
[11:19]<@BC_Programming> Terraria 1.2 update, been looking forward to it :P
[11:20]<@Mulreay> Why then?
[11:20]<@Mulreay> oh
[11:20]<@BC_Programming> ha preemptively answered your question :P
[11:20]<@Mulreay> heh yeah
[11:26]<@Mulreay> I have a weird ability.. if I see a face on screen and I wonder 'where do I know that person from?' I close my eyes picture the face and then suddenly I know where I know them from.
[11:27]<@BC_Programming> did you see a picture of Sarah Jessica Parker and remember you knew that face from a Stable?
[11:28]<@Mulreay> haha nah it was celine dion but the stable is still valid
[11:31]<Craig-Work> Boo! Hahhahaa, how goes it guys?
[11:32]<Craig-Work> Whats in the 1.2 update of Terraria?
[11:33]<@BC_Programming> EVERYTHING
[11:33]<@BC_Programming> It's going to be bigger than every other update put together based on what I've read and seen
[11:43]<Craig-Work> Cool\
[11:45]<@Mulreay> My xbox controller now works
[11:46]<@BC_Programming> HOORAY all these stupid daily activity moorage reports are now finished
[11:47]<Craig-Work> Man thats going to be CRAZY
[12:13]<@Mulreay> Testing a game now
[12:13]<+camerongray> :D
[12:14]<@BC_Programming> NO :D'ing
[12:15]<@Mulreay> If this games works I will probably wee a little with happiness
[12:15]<@BC_Programming> Which game is that
[12:16]<@Mulreay> OH MY GOD I wee'd a little
[12:16]<@BC_Programming> never heard of that game
[12:16]<+camerongray> haha
[12:17]<@Mulreay> On my past APU 'deadlight' was a struggle to play.. now it works fine
[12:17]<+camerongray> sweet!
[12:19]<@Mulreay> and my xbox contoller works.. too mush wee coming out right now
[12:19]<@Mulreay> much*
[12:21]<+camerongray> hahah
[12:23]<@Mulreay> I wonder what caused the problem..
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[13:55]<@Mulreay> After much deliberation I've decided to dual BC_Programming over time and space.
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> lol
[13:55]<@BC_Programming> I'm debating ordering a pizza
[13:56]<@Mulreay> I want one as well.. but it I have 6 eggs that need eating before today
[13:58]<@Mulreay> 'Lister: Switch off the lights, Ca:
[13:58]<@BC_Programming> the problem with getting pizza
[13:58]<@BC_Programming> is other people expect me to get some for them
[13:58]<@Mulreay> Cat: great they will think we are out
[13:58]<@BC_Programming> bah
[13:59]<@Mulreay> Yeah, if I order one my housemate will have to answer the door
[14:00]<@BC_Programming> I always have this fear that my card will be declined lol
[14:01]<@Mulreay> I'll pay.. you pay me back.. can you imagine the guys trying to work out why a guy in manchester UK paid for a pizza in Canada
[14:02]<@BC_Programming> no my fear doesn't make sense since I have hundreds in the account
[14:02]<@BC_Programming> but yeah that would be hilarious
[14:06]<@Mulreay> my xbox controller works.. I know that is old news but after crying myself to sleep with this build I felt it needed another mention
[14:10]<@Mulreay> I didn't cry but I felt like doing so
[14:20]<@BC_Programming> My lunch is on it's way
[14:21]<@Mulreay> Enjoy
[14:21]<@BC_Programming> ham, bacon, green peppers mushrooms black olives
[14:22]<+camerongray> You just ruined pizza :P
[14:22]<@Mulreay> Sounds great but I would have done green olives
[14:22]<+camerongray> I suppose it's not got fish, that would be worse :P
[14:22]<@BC_Programming> Also I changed the sauce to a cheese sauce
[14:23]<@BC_Programming> oh just checked and I also got chicken on it
[14:23]<@BC_Programming> heh
[14:23]<@BC_Programming> for some reason Lettuce was actually a choice of topping
[14:23]<+camerongray> There is one amazing Pizza though - Haggis
[14:23]<+camerongray> This actually exists and is amazing!
[14:23]<@BC_Programming> >:(
[14:24]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, you can't get it :P
[14:24]<@BC_Programming> can't easily get Irn Bru either
[14:24]<+camerongray> Yeah
[14:24]<+camerongray> Mulreay might be able to get the pizza though, not sure how available it is in England but the supermarkets here have it
[14:25]<@BC_Programming> supermarket pizza
[14:25]<@Mulreay> I love haggis but only from a butcher
[14:25]<+camerongray> Yeah, this is decent stuff though
[14:25]<+camerongray> Then again, I suppose you could do it yourself :P
[14:26]<@BC_Programming> what I need to get is another bike so I can get to the store
[14:26]<@BC_Programming> choice between pizza and walking an hour to the shops, than an hour back with everything I bought is a no-brainer
[14:26]<+camerongray> Yeah, I have one but left it at home - Not much space to put it
[14:27]<+camerongray> Yeah, at least most stuff here is local and bus travel is good and cheap
[14:27]<@BC_Programming> not looking forward to the monthly fee on my transactions for the month, lol
[14:28]<+camerongray> Then again, the other day we needed a car - Went to Staples and bought a chair (Along with a plant and extension cord from B&Q and some donuts from Krispy Kreme) - Getting that back on the bus was not fun!
[14:28]<@BC_Programming> the bus schedules are confusing here
[14:28]<@BC_Programming> it's like figuring out an ancient cipher from a lost civilization
[14:28]<+camerongray> Ahh, brilliant here, we have mobile apps that tell you the bus times :D
[14:29]<+camerongray> Live bus times that is
[14:29]<+camerongray> And screens at each stop with them as well
[14:29]<jamer> Ooo scotland got hightechy :p
[14:29]<@BC_Programming> I keep refreshing my bank site/account... I don't know what I expect to happen
[14:30]<+camerongray> jamer: lol!
[14:30]<+camerongray> We seem to be more high-tech than a lot of the US :P
[14:30]<+camerongray> At checkout in Staples: "Do you need a hand to the car with that" "It's fine, we're taking it on the bus" "Really... You're taking that... *Points at giant box* on the bus..." - In your face lady in Staples!
[14:31]<jamer> Lol
[14:31]<@BC_Programming> and if the bus was full at least you'd have a seat
[14:31]<+camerongray> Even though we did stop in the car park, open the box and carry a couple of parts each
[14:31]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: hahaa, we did contemplate assembling it
[14:32]<+camerongray> I mean, some stuff in the US seems low tech to me - We have never had an electric kettle on holiday in the US, always one that goes on the hob
[14:32]<+camerongray> And 1mbps DSL seems common!
[14:32]<@BC_Programming> I have this tendency to order too much, because I order it when I'm hungry
[14:32]<+camerongray> Yeah, same
[14:32]<@BC_Programming> then I finish half of what I ordered and go
[14:32]<@BC_Programming> "damn"
[14:32]<+camerongray> And 8mbps DSL is seen as really slow here!
[14:33]<@BC_Programming> I got two large pizzas first and wasn't even able to finish one, so basically got to share that
[14:33]<@BC_Programming> so I downgraded to a medium
[14:33]<@BC_Programming> had to 'rest' for an hour with two slices left
[14:33]<@BC_Programming> small is the perfect size though
[14:34]<@BC_Programming> 12" diameter fwiw
[14:35]<@Mulreay> I got wonderful reactions from PCworld today.. I wanted a mini HDMI adaptor.. 'there is no such thing' I said 'Cool, is your dad in?' he said 'you're not funny' I said 'no I'm not and neither are you.' I got a dvi to hdmi adaptor from a computer shop. Seems strange that people are in charge of computers
[14:36]<+camerongray> You and your big sizes!
[14:36]<@BC_Programming> I'm going to start using cash
[14:37]<+camerongray> As far as I'm aware, here small is 9", medium is 11" and large is 14" :P
[14:38]<@BC_Programming> oh wait maybe 12" is a medium
[14:38]<jamer> Lol
[14:38]<@BC_Programming> yeah 10" was the small
[14:38]<@BC_Programming> 8" is "personal" otherwise known as bite-size
[14:39]<jamer> Today in class was funny
[14:41]<@BC_Programming> My noms have arrived
[14:41]<@BC_Programming> I sit here
[14:41]<@BC_Programming> Holding my noms
[14:41]<@BC_Programming> also got pop with it because what is pizza without pop huh
[14:41]<jamer> In two days we (junior class) installed windows 7 on 21 computerz
[14:42]<+camerongray> lol
[14:42]<+camerongray> That does sound quite fun, my stuff is very theoretical
[14:43]<@BC_Programming> this cheese sauce is my new favourite
[14:43]<jamer> The senior class only did like 2 in that time frame XD
[14:44]<jamer> Ibstalling windows 7 from flash drive ftw
[14:44]<+camerongray> HAHAH! Just watched my lecture Facepalm
[14:45]<+camerongray> Basically what happened was - The timetabling system messed up so we all went to one place but the lecturer and like 5 students went to a different lecture
[14:45]<jamer> Lol
[14:45]<+camerongray> But he started the lecture anyway - You see him facepalm when he realises :P
[14:47]<jamer> I feel asleep in the middle of class then spazzed out when i woke up
[14:48]<+camerongray> Here it is: http://podcast.is.ed.ac.uk:8080/Podcasts/capturED/D747/INFR08019/2013-09-17/Informatics_2C___Introduction_to_Software_Engineering-video.m4v
[14:48]<+camerongray> Around 12:10 in
[14:52]<+camerongray> jamer: This is what my lectures are like, very theoretical and loads of people: http://podcast.is.ed.ac.uk:8080/Podcasts/capturED/D747/INFR08008/2013-09-20/Informatics_2A___Processing_Formal_and_Natural_Languages-video.m4v
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[14:55]<jamer> I cant help it that i fell asleep listenkng to a man that is monotone..
[14:56]<+camerongray> lol, we are similar
[14:56]<+camerongray> What's worse is mononone where you have no idea what they are saying :P
[14:56]<jamer> Lol
[14:56]<+camerongray> My DMMR lecturer has a very stron accent
[14:57]<@BC_Programming> that happened at the meeting I had for work on the first day, I got a ride and he/we were talking about it
[14:57]<@BC_Programming> and all I remember is some blur about the different customer tables
[14:57]<jamer> We have our a+ stuff online and that techer is monotone
[14:58]<@BC_Programming> the cusmas2 is a separate table, because it's based on the datapuller which pulls data from THEOS; this is why everything is a string/varchar, but the cusmas1 table references the cusmas2 table using a Foreign key lookup
[14:58]<@BC_Programming> "uh
[14:58]<@BC_Programming> yeah."
[15:07]<jamer> Im gonna go swimming tonight.. XD
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[16:05]<Immental1200> Mulreay... PCWorld / Currys are the most useless places on earth.
[16:12]<+camerongray> Immental1200: It took you that long to realise? :P
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[19:07]<Immental1200> I always knew camerongray... Always
[19:07]<+camerongray> Ahh, Mulreay mentioned them first :P
[19:08]<+camerongray> Overheard in PC World "Oh, A'hve never heard of Solaris, we dinnae dae Solaris mouses[sic], we only dae Windows mouses"
[19:10]<Immental1200> Jeez you're still up?
[19:10]<+camerongray> So are you :P
[19:10]<+camerongray> I had an idea then got very deep into it
[19:12]<Immental1200> I'm getting up in 6 hours though so I'll about manage a day
[19:12]<+camerongray> lol, same :P
[19:13]<+camerongray> Working from home tomorrow so don't need to get up early
[19:13]<+camerongray> Get up, have shower, walk across room :P
[19:13]<Immental1200> One thing I wondered, why on earth is fm using a proxy..i mean seriously.
[19:13]<+camerongray> fm?
[19:14]<Immental1200> Off glitch
[19:14]<+camerongray> huh?
[19:14]<+camerongray> in #bleepingcomputer?
[19:14]<Immental1200> Oh Jesus. I'm an idiot. Yes. I misread a username
[19:15]<Immental1200> Mistook someone for you
[19:16]<+camerongray> lol
[19:16]<+camerongray> Who's using the proxy?
[19:18]<Immental1200> Fm1337 is running a proxy through hamachi or something totally useless
[19:18]<Immental1200> A VPN I could understand... But a proxy?!
[19:18]<+camerongray> How do you know that?
[19:19]<Immental1200> He said.
[19:19]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[19:19]<+camerongray> Yeah, I don't get people trying to hide their IPs :P
[19:19]<+camerongray> Had one guy in CH also intent on using a VPN, terrified about not using it
[19:19]<+camerongray> My response was "Look everyone, here's my IP" :P
[19:19]<Immental1200> If I want a new ip, I login to bt WiFi lol
[19:20]<Immental1200> Not my username and password, so not coming back to me easily xD
[19:20]<+camerongray> I don't have anything to hide :P
[19:20]<+camerongray> My flat is part of a VPN but all that goes through stuff is LAN traffic to 10.x.x.x IPs
[19:20]<+camerongray> My regular stuff goes straight out to the internet
[19:21]<Immental1200> I use it for testing occasionally when trying to restrict stuff to my ip.
[19:21]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[19:21]<+camerongray> Did I show you my new IRC box?
[19:21]<Immental1200> Make sure it's properly restricted... The time I did it wrong with phpmyadmin was not good ..
[19:21]<Immental1200> Nope
[19:21]<+camerongray> http://flat.camerongray.me/~camerong/public/photos/Mull.jpg :D
[19:22]<Immental1200> I had a feeling.
[19:22]<+camerongray> lol
[19:22]<+camerongray> I mean, sure there is an Atom machine next to it, but the Pi is cool :D
[19:22]<Immental1200> Slow to load
[19:23]<Immental1200> That image
[19:23]<+camerongray> Ahh
[19:23]<+camerongray> Connection should be 10mbps up
[19:23]<jamer> Its just how big the file is
[19:23]<+camerongray> 903kb :P
[19:24]<Immental1200> I get a dual core atom Monday... 2gb of ram... 4tb space ... In the same dc as the other servers and bam, emergency backups
[19:24]<jamer> Lol yeah.. Myphone hatex
[19:24]<+camerongray> Nice!
[19:24]<jamer> Hates large photots XD
[19:24]<+camerongray> I'm setting up backups to my atom machine in the flat
[19:24]<+camerongray> 100mbps down so fast enough :P
[19:24]<+camerongray> And my server 'rack' http://flat.camerongray.me/~camerong/public/photos/FlatNet%20Rack.JPG
[19:25]<Immental1200> We had a spare e3 with 32gb of ram I was going to take as my personal server... Then we had our first dedicated server order in like 4 months... I was so upset
[19:25]<+camerongray> Then I had a fight on Facebook with my friends over me copying their rack :P
[19:25]<Immental1200> It's an insult to racks calling that a rack.
[19:26]<+camerongray> haha
[19:26]<+camerongray> It's actually really solid though
[19:26]<+camerongray> In the sense it holds that UPS, that thing could break floors!
[19:26]<Immental1200> I'm getting nervous about my apprenticeship now... Three weeks and no yes / no yet...
[19:26]<jamer> Better than my rack storage
[19:26]<+camerongray> What was the speed on that image like?
[19:27]<jamer> Still bad but its my end... Brother is skyping..
[19:27]<Immental1200> But I'm being told they don't want anything given out till they choose both apprentices.
[19:27]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[19:27]<Immental1200> Second image was instant
[19:28]<+camerongray> Oh yeah Immental1200 - Got the first PC I ever used fired up again! http://flat.camerongray.me/~camerong/public/photos/ambra.jpg
[19:28]<+camerongray> Yeah, Going through old photos on the public folder :P
[19:29]<@BC_Programming> I ran win98SE on a 486, even burned CDs with it
[19:29]<+camerongray> nice!
[19:29]<Immental1200> Lol.
[19:29]<+camerongray> So useful having a publically accessible directory sitting there :P
[19:29]<Immental1200> Night guys
[19:29]<Immental1200> Oh and I'll totally hack your stuff now I has ur ip ;)
[19:30]<@BC_Programming> BEHOLD: http://bc-programming.com/misc/other/updaterprogress.png
[19:30]<@BC_Programming> that's what I made today
[19:30]<Immental1200> Download bars look naff, use the standard ones :P
[19:32]<@BC_Programming> Can't
[19:32]<Immental1200> Oh why not
[19:32]<+camerongray> Oh yeah: http://flat.camerongray.me/~camerong/public/photos/FlatNet%20Wiki.png
[19:32]<@BC_Programming> the ones inside the ListView are drawn manually, and the one outside the ListView has text; overlaying a label on a ProgressBar causes repaint problems
[19:32]<@BC_Programming> will probably change the colours though
[19:32]<+camerongray> Don't all students have internal Wikis on their intranets? :P
[19:33]<@BC_Programming> the only other way would be to use the Theme API probably, but there is no requirement to have it look like a standard progressbar so I'm not keen on filing hours against that
[19:34]<Immental1200> If there's a way to loose the black border around the bar I'd do it
[19:34]<@BC_Programming> No that's drawn on purpose
[19:34]<Immental1200> Looks a little funny. Box for the cell and then another box inside it
[19:35]<jamer> http://flat.camerongray.me/~camerong/public/photos/FlatNet%20Wiki.png XD
[19:35]<+camerongray> Yep
[19:35]<+camerongray> Got 3 others wanting to connect!
[19:35]<@BC_Programming> cell?
[19:35]<+camerongray> One has just bought the router, others have it but we are still trying to get it to authenticate with the VPN :P
[19:35]<Immental1200> Field in the table? I've been doing excel today
[19:35]<@BC_Programming> Subitem :P
[19:36]<@BC_Programming> Actually I might try to figure out how to manually draw Progress Bars with the theme API anyway
[19:36]<Immental1200> I don't do programming and stuff like that
[19:37]<Immental1200> Can I get a link to that wiki Cameron? :P
[19:37]<+camerongray> Intranet only :P
[19:37]<Immental1200> Waaa
[19:37]<+camerongray> Notice the URL at the bottom left!
[19:37]<Immental1200> Hook me up with a VPN ;) I promise not to try and break the network ;)
[19:38]<+camerongray> lol
[19:38]<+camerongray> You can have the link though :P http://wiki.fnet/~flatnet/index.php/Main_Page
[19:38]<Immental1200> Oh noes it won't load
[19:38]<@BC_Programming> oh man I have more hardened clay than I will ever need
[19:38]<@BC_Programming> thx Mesa Biome
[19:38]<+camerongray> haha
[19:39]<+camerongray> We are all providing different services
[19:39]<+camerongray> Only in Informatics...
[19:40]<+camerongray> If you went into a high school and told someone about it the response would be "Wow that's sad" - At uni the response is "OMG! How can I join"
[19:40]<Immental1200> I've got a crapload of people asking me for 1.7 worlds in my server, I keep having to explain a. They'd loose the existing world and b. There's no server version yet
[19:40]<jamer> If i can get a spare desktop going can i join the vpn woth hosting a minecraft server XD
[19:40]<Immental1200> People don't get it
[19:40]<+camerongray> We have one :P
[19:40]<jamer> Drat..
[19:40]<Immental1200> Plus he's us and would lag :P
[19:40]<+camerongray> Only for people at uni :P
[19:40]<jamer> Ok lol
[19:40]<Immental1200> Hi.
[19:40]<+camerongray> haha
[19:41]<jamer> Ping time to the UK is low for me
[19:41]<+camerongray> Notice how the URLs are based on street name initials - My stuf is sr.fnet wheras my friend is eps.fnet :P
[19:41]<Immental1200> It's only like... 500 miles away isn't it?
[19:41]<Immental1200> Wiltshire to Edinburgh...
[19:41]<jamer> Immental1200 its all fiber optic from us to uk
[19:42]<Immental1200> Still if your local stuff sucks
[19:42]<+camerongray> The VPN runs on a VPS in maidenhead
[19:42]<+camerongray> And the DNS
[19:42]<+camerongray> Otherwise we would be limited by the host's connection
[19:43]<Immental1200> A VPS in maidenhead... I have a VPS and a DNS server in maidenhead !! Omg
[19:43]<+camerongray> lol
[19:43]<@BC_Programming> Immental: for MC you mean there isn't a bukkit version Presumably
[19:43]<Immental1200> Wasn't aware there was vanilla yet either
[19:43]<@BC_Programming> the server links are in the blog posts iirc
[19:44]<+camerongray> Can't wait to get more people on here!
[19:44]<Immental1200> Hm
[19:44]<Immental1200> Yeah I need Bukkit though
[19:44]<Immental1200> I get last though, because I use spigot
[19:44]<+camerongray> We are also considering a roaming WiFi system called 'flaturoam' after the university roaming WiFI system called 'eduroam' :P
[19:44]<@BC_Programming> I had somebody ask me to update GP to 1.6.4
[19:44]<@BC_Programming> which makes no sense because it doesn't use NMS and therefore works in 1.6.4, as shown by my test server being 1.6.4 since bukkit had a dev build...
[19:45]<Immental1200> The Bukkit 1.6.4 is dodgy as hell
[19:45]<@BC_Programming> works for me
[19:45]<@BC_Programming> though I do only use it for testing GP and GPEnderHoppers
[19:45]<Immental1200> Tried it on ny spare server with the plugins and worlds from my live server... Chunks didn't load
[19:46]<Immental1200> And some plugins refused to start
[19:46]<@BC_Programming> Yeah plugins need to be updated if they use internal Minecraft stuff
[19:46]<Immental1200> I think multiverse portals was one
[19:46]<+camerongray> We also may have considered setting up a VoIP system when we were in the pub :P
[19:46]<+camerongray> I don't *think* anyone has drunkenly bought VoIP phones yet
[19:46]<+camerongray> AS you can tell, this is all "because we can"
[19:47]<@BC_Programming> that's the same reason I bought a 1TB drive for my laptop
[19:47]<@BC_Programming> If I somehow struggle to use that space I could always set up a network share, haha
[19:48]<Immental1200> My cousin has 4tb in his desktop and manages to fill it in a month with just work. I will never understand how
[19:48]<Immental1200> 3tb*
[19:52]<@BC_Programming> my desktop us a 750GB system drive and a 1.5TB data drive
[19:52]<@BC_Programming> the latter is failing and I had to disable SMART and indexing to keep it from simply disappearing from the system; former is starting to fail
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[20:06]<@BC_Programming> :D
[20:06]<@BC_Programming> I got it drawing the progressbar natively... for some reason it's blue though
[20:42]<@BC_Programming> Good call Immental1200: http://bc-programming.com/misc/other/updaterprogress.png
[20:42]<@BC_Programming> Looks much nicer :D
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